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=Social dance=
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===Womens Dance===
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I'm not sure that Women's Dance should be presented as a separate section in it's own right.
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JA: Who said that? Use the signature button then we know who we're arguing with.  :-)
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Sorry, I didn't know there was a signature button, I'm still new here.
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--[[User:PhilPreen|PhilPreen]] 16:10, 3 May 2007 (BST)
  
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==History==
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There's a danger of getting into the 'Women's Morris' argument here which is probably not productive.
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* [[Dancing Masters]]
 
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* [[Dance Publishers]]
 
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* [[The Social Dance Movement]]
 
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* [[The Ceilidh Movement]]
 
  
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==Dances==
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PP: Indeed. My first impression on seeing the list was that it appeared to have been put together by someone who believes that cotswold morris is not cotswold morris when danced by women, and therefore felt that a separate category was required. If there really is a new genre that I'm not aware of, and if the correct name for that is really "Women's Dance" then we should put it back.
  
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* [[Historic Dances]]
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Where are we to put Martha Roden's Tu'penny Dish or Rimington Ladies? It's mixed up with North West, with Border, with Cotswold, with various processionals but it's mostly taking its own line and more often than not with newly composed dances. It's not an easy one to get a handle on but we're open to opinions.
  
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* [[Modern Dances]]
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PP: Martha Roden's Tu'penny Dish are on the Federation list as border. I can't find Rimington Ladies.
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PP: In my experience the vast majority of sides stay pretty much within one genre, and those that do two or more, still treat them separately. There may be some newly composed dances which draw influences from multiple traditions, but I would think these were very much in the minority.
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Anyway, this page of headings was an old version and now not relevant as the dance headings have been changed now.
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--[[User:JohnnyAdams|JohnnyAdams]] 18:05, 2 May 2007 (BST)
  
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=Team Dance=
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* [[Womens Dance Traditions]]
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* [[Womens Dance Research]]
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* [[Modern Womens Dance]]
  
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===Cotswold Morris===
 
  
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* [[Morris Traditions]]
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===Clog and Step Dance===
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* [[Morris Research]]
 
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* [[Modern Morris Sides]]
 
  
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===NorthWest Morris===
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1) I'm not sure that Clog and Step should be under MOrris/Rapper as they could just as well be under Social dance. These dances break down into Exhibition (say performance/music hall and competition), social, busking.
  
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* [[NW Morris Traditions]]
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I guess I'm suggesting that they should have a category of their own.
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* [[NW Morris Research]]
 
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* [[Modern NW Morris Sides]]
 
  
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===Womens Dance===
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You might want to consider different subdivisions - step dance in shoes/ step dance in clogs which then can be divided geographically.
  
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I'm not sure that Women's Dance should be presented as a separate section in it's own right.
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e.g.
  
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JA: Who said that? Use the signature button then we know who we're arguing with.  :-)
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Clog Dance
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  Durham
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  Lancashire
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  Lakeland
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  Wales
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  etc
  
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There's a danger of getting into the 'Women's Morris' argument here which is probably not productive. Where are we to put Martha Roden's Tu'penny Dish or Rimington Ladies? It's mixed up with North West, with Border, with Cotswold, with various processionals but it's mostly taking its own line and more often than not with newly composed dances. It's not an easy one to get a handle on but we're open to opinions.
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Step Dance
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  Suffolk
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  Dartmoor
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  Mendips
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  Scotland
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  Cape Breton/Scotland
  
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--[[User:JohnnyAdams|JohnnyAdams]] 18:05, 2 May 2007 (BST)
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Rest of World--
  
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* [[Womens Dance Traditions]]
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--[[User:Iain (Jethro) Anderson|Iain (Jethro) Anderson]] 17:05, 3 May 2007 (BST)
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* [[Womens Dance Research]]
 
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* [[Modern Womens Dance]]
 
  
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===Longsword===
 
  
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* [[Longsword Traditions]]
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They are already in a category of their own
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* [[Longsword Research]]
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The headings are:
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* [[Modern Longsword Sides]]
 
  
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===Rapper===
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Social Ceilidh Barn Dance
  
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* [[Rapper Traditions]]
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Morris Dancing
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* [[Rapper Research]]
 
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* [[Modern Rapper Sides]]
 
  
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===Molly===
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Sword Dancing
  
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* [[Molly Traditions]]
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Step/Clog Dance
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* [[Molly Research]]
 
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* [[Modern Molly Sides]]
 
  
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=Display Dance=
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Happy to adopt the above sub categories.
  
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==Clog dance==
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--[[User:JohnnyAdams|JohnnyAdams]] 17:18, 3 May 2007 (BST)
  
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* [[Lakeland]]
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These headings are off the Dance page temporarily as they don't yet serve any useful purpose and need some debate.
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* [[Lancashire]]
 
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* [[Durham]]
 
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* [[Clog Dance Research]]
 
  
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==Step Dance==
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===Geographical===
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* [[England]]
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* [[Wales]]
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* [[Scotland]]
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* [[Ireland]]
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* [[America]]
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* [[Africa]]
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* [[Asia]]
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* [[Australia]]
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* [[Caribbean]]
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* [[Europe]]
  
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* [[Dartmoor]]
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--[[User:JohnnyAdams|JohnnyAdams]] 17:18, 3 May 2007 (BST)
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* [[East Anglian]]
 

Latest revision as of 16:19, 3 May 2007

Womens Dance

I'm not sure that Women's Dance should be presented as a separate section in it's own right.

JA: Who said that? Use the signature button then we know who we're arguing with. :-)

Sorry, I didn't know there was a signature button, I'm still new here. --PhilPreen 16:10, 3 May 2007 (BST)

There's a danger of getting into the 'Women's Morris' argument here which is probably not productive.

PP: Indeed. My first impression on seeing the list was that it appeared to have been put together by someone who believes that cotswold morris is not cotswold morris when danced by women, and therefore felt that a separate category was required. If there really is a new genre that I'm not aware of, and if the correct name for that is really "Women's Dance" then we should put it back.

Where are we to put Martha Roden's Tu'penny Dish or Rimington Ladies? It's mixed up with North West, with Border, with Cotswold, with various processionals but it's mostly taking its own line and more often than not with newly composed dances. It's not an easy one to get a handle on but we're open to opinions.

PP: Martha Roden's Tu'penny Dish are on the Federation list as border. I can't find Rimington Ladies.

PP: In my experience the vast majority of sides stay pretty much within one genre, and those that do two or more, still treat them separately. There may be some newly composed dances which draw influences from multiple traditions, but I would think these were very much in the minority.

Anyway, this page of headings was an old version and now not relevant as the dance headings have been changed now.

--JohnnyAdams 18:05, 2 May 2007 (BST)


Clog and Step Dance

1) I'm not sure that Clog and Step should be under MOrris/Rapper as they could just as well be under Social dance. These dances break down into Exhibition (say performance/music hall and competition), social, busking.

I guess I'm suggesting that they should have a category of their own.

You might want to consider different subdivisions - step dance in shoes/ step dance in clogs which then can be divided geographically.

e.g.

Clog Dance 

  Durham
  Lancashire
  Lakeland
  Wales
  etc

Step Dance 

  Suffolk
  Dartmoor
  Mendips
  Scotland
  Cape Breton/Scotland

Rest of World--

--Iain (Jethro) Anderson 17:05, 3 May 2007 (BST)


They are already in a category of their own The headings are:

Social Ceilidh Barn Dance

Morris Dancing

Sword Dancing

Step/Clog Dance

Happy to adopt the above sub categories.

--JohnnyAdams 17:18, 3 May 2007 (BST)

These headings are off the Dance page temporarily as they don't yet serve any useful purpose and need some debate.

Geographical

--JohnnyAdams 17:18, 3 May 2007 (BST)

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