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JA: Who said that? Use the signature button then we know who we're arguing with. :-) | JA: Who said that? Use the signature button then we know who we're arguing with. :-) | ||
There's a danger of getting into the 'Women's Morris' argument here which is probably not productive. Where are we to put Martha Roden's Tu'penny Dish or Rimington Ladies? It's mixed up with North West, with Border, with Cotswold, with various processionals but it's mostly taking its own line and more often than not with newly composed dances. It's not an easy one to get a handle on but we're open to opinions. | Sorry, I didn't know there was a signature button, I'm still new here. | ||
--[[User:PhilPreen|PhilPreen]] 16:10, 3 May 2007 (BST) | |||
There's a danger of getting into the 'Women's Morris' argument here which is probably not productive. | |||
PP: Indeed. My first impression on seeing the list was that it appeared to have been put together by someone who believes that cotswold morris is not cotswold morris when danced by women, and therefore felt that a separate category was required. If there really is a new genre that I'm not aware of, and if the correct name for that is really "Women's Dance" then we should put it back. | |||
Where are we to put Martha Roden's Tu'penny Dish or Rimington Ladies? It's mixed up with North West, with Border, with Cotswold, with various processionals but it's mostly taking its own line and more often than not with newly composed dances. It's not an easy one to get a handle on but we're open to opinions. | |||
PP: Martha Roden's Tu'penny Dish are on the Federation list as border. I can't find Rimington Ladies. | |||
PP: In my experience the vast majority of sides stay pretty much within one genre, and those that do two or more, still treat them separately. There may be some newly composed dances which draw influences from multiple traditions, but I would think these were very much in the minority. | |||
Anyway, this page of headings was an old version and now not relevant as the dance headings have been changed now. | Anyway, this page of headings was an old version and now not relevant as the dance headings have been changed now. | ||
--[[User:JohnnyAdams|JohnnyAdams]] 18:05, 2 May 2007 (BST) | --[[User:JohnnyAdams|JohnnyAdams]] 18:05, 2 May 2007 (BST) | ||
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* [[Womens Dance Research]] | * [[Womens Dance Research]] | ||
* [[Modern Womens Dance]] | * [[Modern Womens Dance]] | ||
===Clog and Step Dance=== | |||
1) I'm not sure that Clog and Step should be under MOrris/Rapper as they could just as well be under Social dance. These dances break down into Exhibition (say performance/music hall and competition), social, busking. | |||
I guess I'm suggesting that they should have a category of their own. | |||
You might want to consider different subdivisions - step dance in shoes/ step dance in clogs which then can be divided geographically. | |||
e.g. | |||
Clog Dance | |||
Durham | |||
Lancashire | |||
Lakeland | |||
Wales | |||
etc | |||
Step Dance | |||
Suffolk | |||
Dartmoor | |||
Mendips | |||
Scotland | |||
Cape Breton/Scotland | |||
Rest of World-- | |||
--[[User:Iain (Jethro) Anderson|Iain (Jethro) Anderson]] 17:05, 3 May 2007 (BST) | |||
They are already in a category of their own | |||
The headings are: | |||
Social Ceilidh Barn Dance | |||
Morris Dancing | |||
Sword Dancing | |||
Step/Clog Dance | |||
Happy to adopt the above sub categories. | |||
--[[User:JohnnyAdams|JohnnyAdams]] 17:18, 3 May 2007 (BST) | |||
These headings are off the Dance page temporarily as they don't yet serve any useful purpose and need some debate. | |||
===Geographical=== | |||
* [[England]] | |||
* [[Wales]] | |||
* [[Scotland]] | |||
* [[Ireland]] | |||
* [[America]] | |||
* [[Africa]] | |||
* [[Asia]] | |||
* [[Australia]] | |||
* [[Caribbean]] | |||
* [[Europe]] | |||
--[[User:JohnnyAdams|JohnnyAdams]] 17:18, 3 May 2007 (BST) | |||
Latest revision as of 16:19, 3 May 2007
Womens Dance
I'm not sure that Women's Dance should be presented as a separate section in it's own right.
JA: Who said that? Use the signature button then we know who we're arguing with. :-)
Sorry, I didn't know there was a signature button, I'm still new here. --PhilPreen 16:10, 3 May 2007 (BST)
There's a danger of getting into the 'Women's Morris' argument here which is probably not productive.
PP: Indeed. My first impression on seeing the list was that it appeared to have been put together by someone who believes that cotswold morris is not cotswold morris when danced by women, and therefore felt that a separate category was required. If there really is a new genre that I'm not aware of, and if the correct name for that is really "Women's Dance" then we should put it back.
Where are we to put Martha Roden's Tu'penny Dish or Rimington Ladies? It's mixed up with North West, with Border, with Cotswold, with various processionals but it's mostly taking its own line and more often than not with newly composed dances. It's not an easy one to get a handle on but we're open to opinions.
PP: Martha Roden's Tu'penny Dish are on the Federation list as border. I can't find Rimington Ladies.
PP: In my experience the vast majority of sides stay pretty much within one genre, and those that do two or more, still treat them separately. There may be some newly composed dances which draw influences from multiple traditions, but I would think these were very much in the minority.
Anyway, this page of headings was an old version and now not relevant as the dance headings have been changed now.
--JohnnyAdams 18:05, 2 May 2007 (BST)
Clog and Step Dance
1) I'm not sure that Clog and Step should be under MOrris/Rapper as they could just as well be under Social dance. These dances break down into Exhibition (say performance/music hall and competition), social, busking.
I guess I'm suggesting that they should have a category of their own.
You might want to consider different subdivisions - step dance in shoes/ step dance in clogs which then can be divided geographically.
e.g.
Clog Dance
Durham Lancashire Lakeland Wales etc
Step Dance
Suffolk Dartmoor Mendips Scotland Cape Breton/Scotland
Rest of World--
--Iain (Jethro) Anderson 17:05, 3 May 2007 (BST)
They are already in a category of their own
The headings are:
Social Ceilidh Barn Dance
Morris Dancing
Sword Dancing
Step/Clog Dance
Happy to adopt the above sub categories.
--JohnnyAdams 17:18, 3 May 2007 (BST)
These headings are off the Dance page temporarily as they don't yet serve any useful purpose and need some debate.
Geographical
--JohnnyAdams 17:18, 3 May 2007 (BST)