Duet concertina - Revision history

Pam Bishop: /* Crane */

2008-11-30T01:49:23Z

Crane

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	== Crane ==		== Crane ==
	Also known as Triumph by the Salvation Army who used it a lot. A pretty straightforward, logical system, with five columns. Supposedly doesn't lend itself to fast playing, but I've only ever heard MacCann players say that, and the Crane players I've asked do not agree. Again some very good players around, of whom [[Tim Laycock]] is probably the best known in the UK today. 35, 48 and 55 button models exist. Fairly easy to find one.		Also known as Triumph by the Salvation Army who used it a lot. A pretty straightforward, logical system, with five columns of buttons on each hand. Supposedly doesn't lend itself to fast playing, but I've only ever heard MacCann players say that, and the Crane players I've asked do not agree. Again some very good players around, of whom [[Tim Laycock]] is probably the best known in the UK today. 35, 48 and 55 button models exist. Fairly easy to find one.

	[http://www.concertina.com/crane-duet/index.htm Concertina Library]		[http://www.concertina.com/crane-duet/index.htm Concertina Library]

Pam Bishop: /* MacCann */

2008-11-30T01:49:06Z

MacCann

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	== MacCann ==		== MacCann ==
	The key layout in six columns looks fairly illogical, but it was apparently designed for speed rather than logic and there are certainly some very fine players around! Fairly easy to get one. 57 or more buttons, but sometimes can be huge instruments with up to 80 buttons and the range of a piano!		The key layout with six columns of buttons on each hand looks fairly illogical, but it was apparently designed for speed rather than logic and there are certainly some very fine players around! Fairly easy to get one. 57 or more buttons, but sometimes can be huge instruments with up to 80 buttons and the range of a piano!

	The most famous MacCann player to have been recorded is probably [[Alexander Prince]]. Other old-time players include Henry Stanley, [[Tommy Williams]] and [[Reuben Shaw]].		The most famous MacCann player to have been recorded is probably [[Alexander Prince]]. Other old-time players include Henry Stanley, [[Tommy Williams]] and [[Reuben Shaw]].

Pam Bishop: /* Crane */

2008-11-30T01:43:55Z

Crane

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	== Crane ==		== Crane ==
	~~also~~ known as Triumph by the Salvation Army who used it a lot. A pretty straightforward, logical system. Supposedly doesn't lend itself to fast playing, but I've only ever heard MacCann players say that, and the Crane players I've asked do not agree. Again some very good players around, of whom [[Tim Laycock]] is probably the best known in the UK today. 35, 48 and 55 button models exist. Fairly easy to find one.		Also known as Triumph by the Salvation Army who used it a lot. A pretty straightforward, logical system, with five columns. Supposedly doesn't lend itself to fast playing, but I've only ever heard MacCann players say that, and the Crane players I've asked do not agree. Again some very good players around, of whom [[Tim Laycock]] is probably the best known in the UK today. 35, 48 and 55 button models exist. Fairly easy to find one.

	[http://www.concertina.com/crane-duet/index.htm Concertina Library]		[http://www.concertina.com/crane-duet/index.htm Concertina Library]


	== Jeffries ==		== Jeffries ==

Pam Bishop: /* MacCann */

2008-11-30T01:43:27Z

MacCann

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	== MacCann ==		== MacCann ==
	The key layout looks fairly illogical, but it was apparently designed for speed rather than logic and there are certainly some very fine players around! Fairly easy to get one. 57 or more buttons, but sometimes can be huge instruments with up to 80 buttons and the range of a piano!		The key layout in six columns looks fairly illogical, but it was apparently designed for speed rather than logic and there are certainly some very fine players around! Fairly easy to get one. 57 or more buttons, but sometimes can be huge instruments with up to 80 buttons and the range of a piano!

	The most famous MacCann player to have been recorded is probably [[Alexander Prince]]. Other old-time players include Henry Stanley, [[Tommy Williams]] and [[Reuben Shaw]].		The most famous MacCann player to have been recorded is probably [[Alexander Prince]]. Other old-time players include Henry Stanley, [[Tommy Williams]] and [[Reuben Shaw]].

Pam Bishop: /* MacCann */

2008-11-30T01:06:40Z

MacCann

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	== MacCann ==		== MacCann ==
	~~the~~ key layout looks fairly illogical, but it was apparently designed for speed rather than logic and there are certainly some very fine players around! Fairly easy to get one. 57 or more buttons, but sometimes can be huge instruments with up to 80 buttons and the range of a piano!		The key layout looks fairly illogical, but it was apparently designed for speed rather than logic and there are certainly some very fine players around! Fairly easy to get one. 57 or more buttons, but sometimes can be huge instruments with up to 80 buttons and the range of a piano!

	The most famous MacCann player to have been recorded is probably [[Alexander Prince]]. Other old-time players include [[Tommy Williams]] and [[Reuben Shaw]].		The most famous MacCann player to have been recorded is probably [[Alexander Prince]]. Other old-time players include Henry Stanley, [[Tommy Williams]] and [[Reuben Shaw]].

	Modern players include [[Ralph Jordan]], [[Iris Bishop]] and [[Pam Bishop]].		Modern players include [[Ralph Jordan]], [[Iris Bishop]] and [[Pam Bishop]].

Andyturner at 12:19, 28 May 2008

2008-05-28T12:19:42Z

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	The most famous MacCann player to have been recorded is probably [[Alexander Prince]]. Other old-time players include [[Tommy Williams]] and [[Reuben Shaw]].		The most famous MacCann player to have been recorded is probably [[Alexander Prince]]. Other old-time players include [[Tommy Williams]] and [[Reuben Shaw]].

			Modern players include [[Ralph Jordan]], [[Iris Bishop]] and [[Pam Bishop]].

	[http://www.concertina.com/maccann-duet/index.htm Concertina Library]		[http://www.concertina.com/maccann-duet/index.htm Concertina Library]

	== Crane ==		== Crane ==
	also known as Triumph by the Salvation Army who used it a lot. A pretty straightforward, logical system. Supposedly doesn't lend itself to fast playing, but I've only ever heard MacCann players say that, and the Crane players I've asked do not agree. Again some very good players around. 35, 48 and 55 button models exist. Fairly easy to find one.		also known as Triumph by the Salvation Army who used it a lot. A pretty straightforward, logical system. Supposedly doesn't lend itself to fast playing, but I've only ever heard MacCann players say that, and the Crane players I've asked do not agree. Again some very good players around, of whom [[Tim Laycock]] is probably the best known in the UK today. 35, 48 and 55 button models exist. Fairly easy to find one.

	[http://www.concertina.com/crane-duet/index.htm Concertina Library]		[http://www.concertina.com/crane-duet/index.htm Concertina Library]
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	== Jeffries ==		== Jeffries ==
	designed for anglo players to convert to. Has a "home key" such as G and is apparently difficult to play chromatically, thus players tend not to stray far from the home key. Much rarer than the first two, mostly due to the very regrettable practice of converting them into anglos.		designed for anglo players to convert to. Has a "home key" such as G and is apparently difficult to play chromatically, thus players tend not to stray far from the home key. Much rarer than the first two, mostly due to the very regrettable practice of converting them into anglos.

			Modern players include [[Michael Hebbert]] and [[Gavin Atkin]].

	[http://www.concertina.com/jeffries-duet/index.htm Concertina Library]		[http://www.concertina.com/jeffries-duet/index.htm Concertina Library]

Andyturner: /* MacCann */

2008-05-28T12:16:16Z

MacCann

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	the key layout looks fairly illogical, but it was apparently designed for speed rather than logic and there are certainly some very fine players around! Fairly easy to get one. 57 or more buttons, but sometimes can be huge instruments with up to 80 buttons and the range of a piano!		the key layout looks fairly illogical, but it was apparently designed for speed rather than logic and there are certainly some very fine players around! Fairly easy to get one. 57 or more buttons, but sometimes can be huge instruments with up to 80 buttons and the range of a piano!

	The most famous MacCann player to have been recorded is probably [[Alexander Prince]].		The most famous MacCann player to have been recorded is probably [[Alexander Prince]]. Other old-time players include [[Tommy Williams]] and [[Reuben Shaw]].

	[http://www.concertina.com/maccann-duet/index.htm Concertina Library]		[http://www.concertina.com/maccann-duet/index.htm Concertina Library]


	== Crane ==		== Crane ==

JohnnyAdams: Categorised

2008-05-28T09:34:18Z

Categorised

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	[http://www.concertina.com/hayden-duet/index.htm Concertina Library]		[http://www.concertina.com/hayden-duet/index.htm Concertina Library]

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Andyturner: wikified

2008-05-27T20:22:43Z

wikified

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			'''Duet concertina''' - name given to several types of [[Concertina]]

	''"In the same way as the Maccann is related to the English system, the Jeffries is related to the Anglo system. The Crane is a rethink, and mine is a discovery rather than an invention. That's the way I see it".'' - Brian Hayden		''"In the same way as the Maccann is related to the English system, the Jeffries is related to the Anglo system. The Crane is a rethink, and mine is a discovery rather than an invention. That's the way I see it".'' - Brian Hayden

	In fact there are several systems of duet concertina, each as separate from each other as an anglo is from an English, but all set out to cure the same perceived problem: how to give an accompaniment to a melody without going schizoid. The answer is the same in all cases: put the low notes on the left hand side, and the high notes on the right hand side and have some overlap between the two sides. The player can then play the melody on the right hand, with an accompaniment on the left, thus		In fact there are several systems of duet concertina, each as separate from each other as an [[Anglo concertina\|anglo]] is from an [[English concertina\|English]], but all set out to cure the same perceived problem: how to give an accompaniment to a melody without going schizoid. The answer is the same in all cases: put the low notes on the left hand side, and the high notes on the right hand side and have some overlap between the two sides. The player can then play the melody on the right hand, with an accompaniment on the left, thus
	the name of "Duet".		the name of "Duet".

	The main duet systems are:		The main duet systems are:

	'''MacCann''': the key layout looks fairly illogical, but it was apparently designed for speed rather than logic and there are certainly some very fine players around! Fairly easy to get one. 57 or more buttons, but sometimes can be huge instruments with up to 80 buttons and the
	~~range of a piano!~~

	~~'''~~Crane~~''':~~ also known as Triumph by the Salvation Army who used it a lot. A pretty straightforward, logical system. Supposedly doesn't lend itself to fast playing, but I've only ever heard MacCann players say that, and the Crane players I've asked do not agree. Again some very good players around. 35, 48 and 55 button models exist. Fairly easy to find one.		== MacCann ==
			the key layout looks fairly illogical, but it was apparently designed for speed rather than logic and there are certainly some very fine players around! Fairly easy to get one. 57 or more buttons, but sometimes can be huge instruments with up to 80 buttons and the range of a piano!

			The most famous MacCann player to have been recorded is probably [[Alexander Prince]].

			[http://www.concertina.com/maccann-duet/index.htm Concertina Library]


			== Crane ==
			also known as Triumph by the Salvation Army who used it a lot. A pretty straightforward, logical system. Supposedly doesn't lend itself to fast playing, but I've only ever heard MacCann players say that, and the Crane players I've asked do not agree. Again some very good players around. 35, 48 and 55 button models exist. Fairly easy to find one.

			[http://www.concertina.com/crane-duet/index.htm Concertina Library]


			== Jeffries ==
			designed for anglo players to convert to. Has a "home key" such as G and is apparently difficult to play chromatically, thus players tend not to stray far from the home key. Much rarer than the first two, mostly due to the very regrettable practice of converting them into anglos.

			[http://www.concertina.com/jeffries-duet/index.htm Concertina Library]


	'~~''Jeffries''': designed for anglo players to convert to~~. ~~Has a~~ "~~home key~~" ~~such~~ as G and ~~is apparently difficult~~ to ~~play chromatically~~, ~~thus players tend not~~ to ~~stray far from~~ the ~~home key~~. ~~Much rarer than~~ the ~~first two~~, ~~mostly due to the very regrettable practice of converting them into anglos~~.		== Hayden ==
			a modern system. Another logical and straightforward duet system, with some ingenious characteristics that make key transposition easy, but quite hard to get because it's modern. I once asked Brian Hayden how many Hayden duets there were in the world, and after some thought he said "Oh, about 60". However this situation is changing markedly for the better, as Stagi have started making accordion-reeded Haydens, a Russian bayan maker has made prototypes and intends to go into production with a potentially excellent instrument (the fabled Haydenovskaya), and now that [http://www.buttonbox.com/ The Button Box] have started making anglos and Englishes they intend to return to their long-held plan to make Haydens. Otherwise the only option is to get one built to order by C & R Dipper or Steve Dickinson. ''Late news: significant delays on the Haydenovskaya, but Marcus Music have started serious development.''

	~~'''Hayden'''~~: ~~a modern system~~. ~~Another logical and straightforward duet system, with some ingenious characteristics that make key transposition easy, but quite hard to get because it's modern. I~~		[http://www.concertina.com/hayden-duet/index.htm Concertina Library]
	~~once asked Brian Hayden how many Hayden duets there were in the world, and after some thought he said "Oh, about 60"~~. ~~However this situation is changing markedly for the better, as Stagi have started making accordion~~-~~reeded Haydens, a Russian bayan maker has made prototypes and intends to go into production with a potentially excellent instrument (the fabled Haydenovskaya), and now that The~~
	Button Box have started making anglos and Englishes they intend to return to their long-held plan to make Haydens. Otherwise the only option is to get one built to order by C & R Dipper or Steve Dickinson. ''Late news: significant delays on the Haydenovskaya, but Marcus Music have started serious development.''

ChrisTimson: An initial entry for the duet concertina

2007-05-07T20:38:37Z

An initial entry for the duet concertina

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''"In the same way as the Maccann is related to the English system, the Jeffries is related to the Anglo system. The Crane is a rethink, and mine is a discovery rather than an invention. That's the way I see it".'' - Brian Hayden

In fact there are several systems of duet concertina, each as separate from each other as an anglo is from an English, but all set out to cure the same perceived problem: how to give an accompaniment to a melody without going schizoid. The answer is the same in all cases: put the low notes on the left hand side, and the high notes on the right hand side and have some overlap between the two sides. The player can then play the melody on the right hand, with an accompaniment on the left, thus
the name of "Duet".

The main duet systems are:

'''MacCann''': the key layout looks fairly illogical, but it was apparently designed for speed rather than logic and there are certainly some very fine players around! Fairly easy to get one. 57 or more buttons, but sometimes can be huge instruments with up to 80 buttons and the
range of a piano!

'''Crane''': also known as Triumph by the Salvation Army who used it a lot. A pretty straightforward, logical system. Supposedly doesn't lend itself to fast playing, but I've only ever heard MacCann players say that, and the Crane players I've asked do not agree. Again some very good players around. 35, 48 and 55 button models exist. Fairly easy to find one.

'''Jeffries''': designed for anglo players to convert to. Has a "home key" such as G and is apparently difficult to play chromatically, thus players tend not to stray far from the home key. Much rarer than the first two, mostly due to the very regrettable practice of converting them into anglos.

'''Hayden''': a modern system. Another logical and straightforward duet system, with some ingenious characteristics that make key transposition easy, but quite hard to get because it's modern. I
once asked Brian Hayden how many Hayden duets there were in the world, and after some thought he said "Oh, about 60". However this situation is changing markedly for the better, as Stagi have started making accordion-reeded Haydens, a Russian bayan maker has made prototypes and intends to go into production with a potentially excellent instrument (the fabled Haydenovskaya), and now that The
Button Box have started making anglos and Englishes they intend to return to their long-held plan to make Haydens. Otherwise the only option is to get one built to order by C & R Dipper or Steve Dickinson. ''Late news: significant delays on the Haydenovskaya, but Marcus Music have started serious development.''