Albert Beale - Revision history

Andyturner: Removed Barbara Allen - not in VWML or Roud Index; added Roud numbers

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Removed Barbara Allen - not in VWML or Roud Index; added Roud numbers

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	Albert Edward Beale, c.1875 – 1961. Singer, Kenardington, [[Kent]]. Recorded by [[Peter Kennedy]] and [[Maud Karpeles]], 1954. Son of ~~the~~ [[James Beale]] from whom [[Cecil Sharp]] collected songs.		Albert Edward Beale, c.1875 – 1961. Singer, Kenardington, [[Kent]]. Recorded by [[Peter Kennedy]] and [[Maud Karpeles]], 1954. Son of [[James Beale]] and [[Alice Harden]] from whom [[Cecil Sharp]] collected songs.

	Born at Orlestone, on the edge of Romney Marsh in Kent (birth registered Sep 1875, East Ashford district). One of around 11 children, Albert's parents were “caravan-dwellers” who moved from Sussex to the Hamstreet area, and settled in a house. At the time of the 1881 Census he was living in a private dwelling at Hamstreet with his sister Louisa (age 8) and his grandparents, Charles and Phoeby Hall, both aged 63. Charles Hall is listed as “dealer”.		Born at Orlestone, on the edge of Romney Marsh in Kent (birth registered Sep 1875, East Ashford district). One of around 11 children, Albert's parents were “caravan-dwellers” who moved from Sussex to the Hamstreet area, and settled in a house. At the time of the 1881 Census he was living in a private dwelling at Hamstreet with his sister Louisa (age 8) and his grandparents, Charles and Phoeby Hall, both aged 63. Charles Hall is listed as “dealer”.
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	'''Songs collected:'''		'''Songs collected:'''

	[[Bailiff's Daughter of Islington, The\|The Bailiff's Daughter of Islington]]		[[Bailiff's Daughter of Islington, The\|The Bailiff's Daughter of Islington]] [[(Roud 483)]]

	[[In London’s Fair City]] ([[Villikins and his Dinah]])		[[In London’s Fair City]] ([[Villikins and his Dinah]]) [[(Roud 271)]]

	[[Comical ditty, A\|A comical ditty]] (Fol the rol lol)		[[Comical ditty, A\|A comical ditty]] (Fol the rol lol) [[(Roud 9484)]]

	[[Frog he would a-wooing go, A\|A frog he would a-wooing go]]		[[Frog he would a-wooing go, A\|A frog he would a-wooing go]] [[(Roud 16)]]

	[[Moon shines bright, The\|The moon shines bright]]		[[Moon shines bright, The\|The moon shines bright]] [[(Roud 702)]]

	~~[[Barbara Allen]]~~		[[Where are you going to, my pretty maid?]] [[(Roud 298)]]

	[[Where are you going to, my pretty maid?]]

	'''Sources:'''		'''Sources:'''

Andyturner: Added links to P Kennedy photos

2020-05-10T08:40:22Z

Added links to P Kennedy photos

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	Unnumbered Folktracks cassette, recorded at Kenardington (N.B. not Kenardrington as Kennedy has it) by [[Peter Kennedy]] and [[Maud Karpeles]], 14th Jan 1954.		Unnumbered Folktracks cassette, recorded at Kenardington (N.B. not Kenardrington as Kennedy has it) by [[Peter Kennedy]] and [[Maud Karpeles]], 14th Jan 1954.

			'''External references:'''

			Photographs of Albert Beale taken by Peter Kennedy, 1954

			* http://www.peterkennedyarchive.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/025I-MSMUS1771X1X-1533A0.jpg

			* http://www.peterkennedyarchive.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/025I-MSMUS1771X1X-1468A0.jpg

			* http://www.peterkennedyarchive.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/025I-MSMUS1771X1X-1469A0.jpg

			* http://www.peterkennedyarchive.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/025I-MSMUS1771X1X-1470A0.jpg

	[[Category:Singer]][[Category:Kent]]		[[Category:Singer]][[Category:Kent]]

Andyturner at 11:17, 26 May 2014

2014-05-26T11:17:51Z

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	[[Bailiff's Daughter of Islington, The\|The Bailiff's Daughter of Islington]]		[[Bailiff's Daughter of Islington, The\|The Bailiff's Daughter of Islington]]

	[In London’s Fair City]] ([[Villikins and his Dinah]])		[[In London’s Fair City]] ([[Villikins and his Dinah]])

	[[Comical ditty, A\|A comical ditty]] (Fol the rol lol)		[[Comical ditty, A\|A comical ditty]] (Fol the rol lol)

Andyturner at 21:39, 28 March 2009

2009-03-28T21:39:58Z

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	'''Songs collected:'''		'''Songs collected:'''

	[[The Bailiff's Daughter of Islington]]		[[Bailiff's Daughter of Islington, The\|The Bailiff's Daughter of Islington]]

	In London’s Fair City ([[Villikins and his Dinah]])		[In London’s Fair City]] ([[Villikins and his Dinah]])

	[[A comical ditty]] (Fol the rol lol)		[[Comical ditty, A\|A comical ditty]] (Fol the rol lol)

	[[A frog he would a-wooing go]]		[[Frog he would a-wooing go, A\|A frog he would a-wooing go]]

	[[The moon shines bright]]		[[Moon shines bright, The\|The moon shines bright]]

	[[Barbara Allen]]		[[Barbara Allen]]

Andyturner: typo

2007-04-23T08:24:15Z

typo

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	He knew a lot of songs, but only recorded half a dozen, because - according to the Beale family - although Peter Kennedy gave him one or two guineas, he didn’t keep his promise to pay him more when the songs were broadcast on the radio. Kennedy paid several visits but when he failed to keep his word, Bert wouldn’t have any more to do with him.		He knew a lot of songs, but only recorded half a dozen, because - according to the Beale family - although Peter Kennedy gave him one or two guineas, he didn’t keep his promise to pay him more when the songs were broadcast on the radio. Kennedy paid several visits but when he failed to keep his word, Bert wouldn’t have any more to do with him.

	N.B. Orlestone, Hamstreet, ~~Warhorne~~ and Kenardington are adjoining villages - [http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=kenardington&layer=&sll=51.063191,0.824661&sspn=0.060954,0.193977&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=13&ll=51.059415,0.811272&spn=0.060959,0.193977 Google Map]		N.B. Orlestone, Hamstreet, Warehorne and Kenardington are adjoining villages - [http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=kenardington&layer=&sll=51.063191,0.824661&sspn=0.060954,0.193977&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=13&ll=51.059415,0.811272&spn=0.060959,0.193977 Google Map]

	'''Songs collected:'''		'''Songs collected:'''

JohnnyAdams at 13:56, 14 March 2007

2007-03-14T13:56:05Z

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	Unnumbered Folktracks cassette, recorded at Kenardington (N.B. not Kenardrington as Kennedy has it) by [[Peter Kennedy]] and [[Maud Karpeles]], 14th Jan 1954.		Unnumbered Folktracks cassette, recorded at Kenardington (N.B. not Kenardrington as Kennedy has it) by [[Peter Kennedy]] and [[Maud Karpeles]], 14th Jan 1954.

			[[Category:Singer]][[Category:Kent]]

Andyturner at 13:51, 12 March 2007

2007-03-12T13:51:56Z

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	[[A frog he would a-wooing go]]		[[A frog he would a-wooing go]]

	[[The ~~Moon~~ shines bright]]		[[The moon shines bright]]

	[[Barbara Allen]]		[[Barbara Allen]]

Andyturner at 09:53, 12 March 2007

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	'''Songs collected:'''		'''Songs collected:'''

	[[The ~~Bailiff’s daughter~~ of Islington]]		[[The Bailiff's Daughter of Islington]]

	In London’s Fair City ([[Villikins and his Dinah]])		In London’s Fair City ([[Villikins and his Dinah]])

Andyturner at 09:52, 12 March 2007

2007-03-12T09:52:30Z

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	Albert Edward Beale, c.1875 – 1961. Singer, Kenardington, [[Kent]]. Recorded by [[Peter Kennedy]] and [[Maud Karpeles]], 1954.		Albert Edward Beale, c.1875 – 1961. Singer, Kenardington, [[Kent]]. Recorded by [[Peter Kennedy]] and [[Maud Karpeles]], 1954. Son of the [[James Beale]] from whom [[Cecil Sharp]] collected songs.

	Born at Orlestone, on the edge of Romney Marsh in Kent (birth registered Sep 1875, East Ashford district). One of around 11 children, Albert's parents were “caravan-dwellers” who moved from Sussex to the Hamstreet area, and settled in a house. At the time of the 1881 Census he was living in a private dwelling at Hamstreet with his sister Louisa (age 8) and his grandparents, Charles and Phoeby Hall, both aged 63. Charles Hall is listed as “dealer”.		Born at Orlestone, on the edge of Romney Marsh in Kent (birth registered Sep 1875, East Ashford district). One of around 11 children, Albert's parents were “caravan-dwellers” who moved from Sussex to the Hamstreet area, and settled in a house. At the time of the 1881 Census he was living in a private dwelling at Hamstreet with his sister Louisa (age 8) and his grandparents, Charles and Phoeby Hall, both aged 63. Charles Hall is listed as “dealer”.

	Albert and his younger brother Jim went to Hamstreet School, where they learned songs for singing at school concerts. Bert left school at 14, although he was very bright, especially at Maths, and his teacher wanted him to become a schoolmaster. His family couldn’t afford to keep him at school, and he spent the rest of his life doing farmwork, though he never really settled at anything. He’d do a bit of work, then do nothing for a while – one farmer said that when Bert was working he’d give him two men’s work just to keep him occupied. ~~He used to earn money “chicken-picking” – would walk 7 days a week from Kenardington to Woodchurch when he was doing this.~~ In the 1901 Census he is listed as Ordinary Agricultural Labourer.		Albert and his younger brother Jim (also reputedly a good singer, but never recorded) went to Hamstreet School, where they learned songs for singing at school concerts. Bert left school at 14, although he was very bright, especially at Maths, and his teacher wanted him to become a schoolmaster. His family couldn’t afford to keep him at school, and he spent the rest of his life doing farmwork, though he never really settled at anything. He’d do a bit of work, then do nothing for a while – one farmer said that when Bert was working he’d give him two men’s work just to keep him occupied.
			In the 1901 Census he is listed as Ordinary Agricultural Labourer.

	Bert used to sing mainly at home, and family get-togethers, but not a lot in public - maybe some village concerts, but not in pubs. Played squeezebox (probably anglo-concertina) when he sang sometimes.		Bert used to sing mainly at home, and family get-togethers, but not a lot in public - maybe some village concerts, but not in pubs. Played squeezebox (probably anglo-concertina) when he sang sometimes.

	He knew a lot of songs, but only recorded half a dozen, because although Peter Kennedy gave him one or two guineas, he didn’t keep his promise to pay him more when the songs were broadcast on the radio. Kennedy paid several visits ~~(he’d been put on to Bert by someone in Hamstreet?)~~ but when he failed to keep his word, Bert wouldn’t have any more to do with him.		He knew a lot of songs, but only recorded half a dozen, because - according to the Beale family - although Peter Kennedy gave him one or two guineas, he didn’t keep his promise to pay him more when the songs were broadcast on the radio. Kennedy paid several visits but when he failed to keep his word, Bert wouldn’t have any more to do with him.

	N.B. Orlestone, Hamstreet, Warhorne and Kenardington are adjoining villages.		N.B. Orlestone, Hamstreet, Warhorne and Kenardington are adjoining villages - [http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=kenardington&layer=&sll=51.063191,0.824661&sspn=0.060954,0.193977&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=13&ll=51.059415,0.811272&spn=0.060959,0.193977 Google Map]

	Songs:		'''Songs collected:'''

	[[Bailiff’s daughter of Islington]]		[[The Bailiff’s daughter of Islington]]

	In London’s Fair City ([[Villikins and his Dinah]])		In London’s Fair City ([[Villikins and his Dinah]])

	A comical ditty (Fol the rol lol)		[[A comical ditty]] (Fol the rol lol)

	[[A frog he would a wooing go]]		[[A frog he would a-wooing go]]

	[[The Moon shines bright]]		[[The Moon shines bright]]
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	[[Where are you going to, my pretty maid?]]		[[Where are you going to, my pretty maid?]]

	Sources:		'''Sources:'''

	Charles Beale (Albert's son), interviewed by Andy Turner at The Wish, Kenardington, 1983.		Charles Beale (Albert's son), interviewed by Andy Turner at The Wish, Kenardington, 1983.

	Unnumbered Folktracks cassette, recorded at Kenardington (N.B. not Kenardrington as Kennedy has it) by [[Peter Kennedy]] and [[Maud Karpeles]], 14th Jan 1954.		Unnumbered Folktracks cassette, recorded at Kenardington (N.B. not Kenardrington as Kennedy has it) by [[Peter Kennedy]] and [[Maud Karpeles]], 14th Jan 1954.

Andyturner at 22:06, 11 March 2007

2007-03-11T22:06:31Z

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	[[Kent]] ~~Singer~~, c.~~1874~~ – ~~1961~~. ~~Recorded~~ by [[Peter Kennedy]] ~~1953~~.		Albert Edward Beale, c.1875 – 1961. Singer, Kenardington, [[Kent]]. Recorded by [[Peter Kennedy]] and [[Maud Karpeles]], 1954.
			Born at Orlestone, on the edge of Romney Marsh in Kent (birth registered Sep 1875, East Ashford district). One of around 11 children, Albert's parents were “caravan-dwellers” who moved from Sussex to the Hamstreet area, and settled in a house. At the time of the 1881 Census he was living in a private dwelling at Hamstreet with his sister Louisa (age 8) and his grandparents, Charles and Phoeby Hall, both aged 63. Charles Hall is listed as “dealer”.

			Albert and his younger brother Jim went to Hamstreet School, where they learned songs for singing at school concerts. Bert left school at 14, although he was very bright, especially at Maths, and his teacher wanted him to become a schoolmaster. His family couldn’t afford to keep him at school, and he spent the rest of his life doing farmwork, though he never really settled at anything. He’d do a bit of work, then do nothing for a while – one farmer said that when Bert was working he’d give him two men’s work just to keep him occupied. He used to earn money “chicken-picking” – would walk 7 days a week from Kenardington to Woodchurch when he was doing this. In the 1901 Census he is listed as Ordinary Agricultural Labourer.

			Bert used to sing mainly at home, and family get-togethers, but not a lot in public - maybe some village concerts, but not in pubs. Played squeezebox (probably anglo-concertina) when he sang sometimes.

			He knew a lot of songs, but only recorded half a dozen, because although Peter Kennedy gave him one or two guineas, he didn’t keep his promise to pay him more when the songs were broadcast on the radio. Kennedy paid several visits (he’d been put on to Bert by someone in Hamstreet?) but when he failed to keep his word, Bert wouldn’t have any more to do with him.

			N.B. Orlestone, Hamstreet, Warhorne and Kenardington are adjoining villages.

			Songs:

			[[Bailiff’s daughter of Islington]]

			In London’s Fair City ([[Villikins and his Dinah]])

			A comical ditty (Fol the rol lol)

			[[A frog he would a wooing go]]

			[[The Moon shines bright]]

			[[Barbara Allen]]

			[[Where are you going to, my pretty maid?]]

			Sources:

			Charles Beale (Albert's son), interviewed by Andy Turner at The Wish, Kenardington, 1983.

			Unnumbered Folktracks cassette, recorded at Kenardington (N.B. not Kenardrington as Kennedy has it) by [[Peter Kennedy]] and [[Maud Karpeles]], 14th Jan 1954.